The Church of England has now gone on record saying it has “no official definition” of a woman.
What?
Really?
At first, I was inclined to think this news was a joke, something left over from from a lame April Fools Day prank. But, after a little digging, I found that it was all too true.
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British journalist Gabriella Swerling, writing for The Telegraph reported ” The Archbishops and York and Canterbury attend The Synod Eucharist Commission on a recent Sunday. The Church of England has come in for criticism after Dr Robert Innes, the Bishop in Europe, said ‘there is no official definition’ of a woman. In a written reply to a question submitted to General Synod, a senior Bishop said that although the meaning of the word woman was previously “thought to be self-evident, care” was now needed.
The question was posed as institutions grapple with the ongoing debate surrounding trans rights and what defines “a woman.”
While the new stance has been welcomed by liberal wings of the Church, the comments have also provoked criticism – with gender-critical campaigners saying that “whether your starting point is biology or the Bible”, the answer to the question of what is a woman remains the same.
Rev Angela Berners-Wilson, England’s first woman priest, said that she is “not totally happy” with the answer, but added that the issue is “sensitive”.Church officials are currently engaged in Living in Love and Faith (LLF), the institution’s ongoing and landmark project aiming to tackle how questions about identity, sexuality, relationships and marriage fit with the Church.
The issue of defining what a woman is emerged in written questions to the General Synod, the Church’s legislative body, in which Adam Kendry, a lay member of the Synod and a representative of the Royal Navy, asked: “What is the Church of England’s definition of a woman?”
In response, Dr Robert Innes, the Bishop in Europe, said that “there is no official definition”.
The Bishop in Europe, who was also replying in his role as chairman of the Faith and Order Commission, said in his written response: “There is no official definition, which reflects the fact that until fairly recently definitions of this kind were thought to be self-evident, as reflected in the marriage liturgy.
“The LLF project however has begun to explore the marriage complexities associated with gender identity and points to the need for additional care and thought to be given in understanding our commonalities and differences as people made in the image of God.”
Rev Angela Berners-Wilson, who became the first woman to be ordained as a priest in England in 1994, and who has recently retired, told The Telegraph in response to the Bishop of Europe’s answer: “I’m not totally happy with it. I mean, I do think certain things like men can’t have babies just to say the complete obvious thing.
“But I think we need to be very sensitive and maybe we need to reexamine our boundaries.”
Maya Forstater, executive director of the Sex Matters campaign group, described the Bishop’s answer as “shocking”, saying that “the concepts of male and female did not need to have a formal official definition” because “they are older than human life itself”.
She added: “When the Government redefined women through the Gender Recognition Act, the Church of England could have stuck with its long-established understanding, which makes sense whether your starting point is biology or the Bible.
“It is shocking that they so readily gave up the definition of man or woman for the state to amend, as if this fundamental truth did not matter.”
However Jayne Ozanne, synod member and founder of the Ozanne Foundation in 2017 – which works with religious organisations around the world to tackle prejudice and discrimination of LGBTQI people – described the question as “passive aggressive”.
She said: “Mr Kendy’s question is sadly a prime example of a passive aggressive question that is designed to upset the LGBT+ community and particularly the trans members in our midst.
“It’s time these anti-LGBT attacks stopped and that we learnt to acknowledge that life is not quite as black and white as some appear to think it should be.”
Dr Jane Hamlin, president of Beaumont Society charity, which supports trans people, added: “I am puzzled why some people are so obsessed with defining ‘woman’. Why might this be an issue for the Church of England?
“Is it that women should be treated more favourably or less favourably? Why does it matter to the Church of England whether someone is a woman or not a woman? Surely it only matters to the individual themselves.”
~ Grif
Maybe the church can ask a US Supreme Court justice, any one except the newest one.
The Anglican Church has been woke, i.e., gone Left, for some time now. That’s why its membership had declined by 40% in 30 years: https://medium.com/backyard-theology/church-decline-is-even-worse-than-we-realised-d5372a93fce5
The membership of this church has “declined by 40% in 30 years–and well it should. I guess we can tell that all the “intelligence” walked out the door among this 40%.
You want to scream at them! It’s chromosomes stupid! God made two, male and female. Read the Bible! Geez, it gets worse every day…and yes, the pulpits are just as crazy in so many churches.
You have hit the nail on its head–it is very specifically defined, at least for those who believe and actually read God’s word. There is no doubt that this whole craziness is all part of Satan’s plan to attempt to derail the plans of our God. Sorry, but in the end this just is not going to be successful.
Mark 7: 6 – 7 And Jesus said, “Well did Isaiah prophecy against you hypocrites, as it is written. This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”
It is sad to note that although 40% of the people have left the Church of England, 60% have stood by while priests and bishops and others vivisect Holy Scripture and lead people away from Jesus. The same sort of thing is happening in America with televangelists who preach that everyone goes to heaven and all you have to do to get there is be nice.
Satan stands in front of that wide gate that leads to the wide and easy highway. He holds up a sign that says EASY WAY — ENTER HERE. He of course neglects to tell them that the wide highway is the road to destruction and death
The “boundaries” as to who is male and who is female are defined by chromosomes. Anything else is fantasy land, upside down. This is typical of the devil’s strategy to turn reality upside down and he is obviously succeeding given this insanity. Thank you Grif for researching this matter and reporting to us the position of the church of England.